I think the point it’s trying to make is that Thanos revels in pain, even if it’s his own. We even see that the Rider’s Penance Stare, his super-natural finishing move, has no effect on Thanos and in fact gets him high on the euphoria of watching his many past evil deeds. Yeah, wasn’t there a time he used it on Galactus and it didn’t hurt him too bad, but it did slow him down for a little bit. This torture eventually dovetailed with another pastime of Mephisto's - the … Forced empathy should logically bring every character ever to their knees. A literal army of super scientists that are constantly coming up with crazy science shit. As for Adam Warlock, it’d work on him like any other being. Penance Stare: Cosmic Ghost Rider looks into his opponent's eyes, and forces them to experience all the pain and suffering they have caused others. The Quarry is described as a grave for Gods of old, where their unimaginable power still lingers for the taking, guarded by the Sisters of Eternity. Yea, it doesn’t make sense. Thanos? This is a subreddit dedicated to Marvel Comics, its publications and hundreds of characters. It seems like one of those powers … The Phoenix? If the Penance Stare really worked this way it would be almost completely useless. Penance: Cosmic Ghost Rider, uses a version of the Penance Stare that incinerates his target whether they feel regret or not for their actions. captainthor985 1 y 6 mo 14 d . Ah, whatever. When Thanos was exposed to the Penance Stare in Donny Cates and Geoff Shaw's Thanos #15, the Mad Titan even taunted Ghost Rider about actually enjoying the experience. It's the Emerald Splash of powers, even though by pure concept it should be the most broken ability in storytelling history. In that moment it's evident that Thanos doesn't feel any remorse for his actions; instead, he regards them as fond memories. He told Odin to send him to the timeline of Baby Thanos, so that he can kill him with the Penance Stare, ending the misery of the Universe once and for all. The Spirits of Vengeance were a team of benevolent beings who protected mankind during ancient times. The very first time his mother laid her eyes on the baby, she was driven mad and tried to kill him.Despite his unusual appearance and introvert nature, Thanos was well accepted by … Or number 6 and number 3? All-Father Thor's life closely parallels and is tied to that of the Thor of Earth-616, who he refers to as being his past self; to the extent that if the Earth-616 Thor were to die he would cease to exist. Although Frank intended to use his cosmic powers to destroy Thanos while he was still an infant, the old soldier soon ... Merc with a Mouth Deadpool while his subservience to Thanos caused him to use his Penance Stare as a way to… excite his master by allowing him to revisit past sins. Press J to jump to the feed. Future King Thanos jobs to his past self in this. We learn King Thanos does this every morning, celebrating his favourite and most despicable acts – what a way to kickstart your day! Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-88de152a9b0d8b5df1c726f918a63fc7. There's different levels to the Penance Stare. Penance Stare is generally H4X that works on stronger opponents than Ghost Rider but not so strong against a cosmic being of Galactus's nature, that seems No limits Fallacy. If the being getting the stare is a complete psychopath and enjoyed what he did then the stare is useless. Has top ranking telepathy, telekinesis, durability, and energy projection. #24 to #14 - anon id: 28bd9842 . With Thanos, he's not immune to it. It shouldn’t matter if you enjoyed doing what you did. It works by stimulating guilt from wrongdoers and searing their souls with their crimes. By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. It is not affiliated with Marvel Entertainment, LLC and is an unofficial community operated by dedicated fans. share. It didn't work on people with less or more than two eyes, and was also ineffective on those who were remorseless in their actions, such as Thanos, who actually enjoyed it, or The Punisher, who really just suffered an upset stomach. Reply +1 [-] You're talking like there's nothing that can be done to help socio and psychopaths. Eventually, when the old Mad Titan died, Frank decided to travel back in time to kill baby Thanos to ensure none of that chaos ever happened and the galaxy would remain Thanos-free. He has a myriad of hellfire attacks that look like that, and it neither behaves like the penance stare, affects Thanos like the penance stare, nor is it ever remotely implied to be the penance stare. Don’t even get me started on Graviton who is the master of fucking GRAVITY, Electro who even Magneto said could probably beat his ass, or Spiral who can do pretty much anything because her powerset reads like a damn grocery list. If he somehow gets killed or damage, he has a slew of clones that he just tosses his brain in to whenever he wants a fresh body or a new upgrade. I could go on, but these three are so fucked over by writers, but at least ghost rider gets to shine in his own series. First, we know the answer for Thanos. Keeping them in charge was the archangel Zadkiel… Mar 2, 2011 #5 That's what I was thinking. (https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-88de152a9b0d8b5df1c726f918a63fc7). I don’t know, I just know that this Ghost Rider is Frank Castle, Yeah, it's crazy inconsistent. Man i fucking hate when writers just decide to make the Penance Stare do nothing. Depending on the severity, it can just hurt you, knock you out, put you in a coma, or straight up kill you. Canonically, this shouldn't work. Wtf is with Thanos just enjoying it because he's "soooo craaaazy and eeeevil"? Long ago, the demon Zarathos began building a tremendous power base for himself. I mean Galactus doesn’t care about all the people he’s killed or misplaced, he was just eating, but the penance stare still made him feel sorry for all the pain he caused. Penance Stare: Ghost Rider (Daniel "Danny" Ketch) is a fictional superhero appearing in American comic books published by Marvel Comics. Ghost Rider is a semi-popular and well-known B-list character and the Penance Stare is a well-known "finishing move" power, but he can't hold his own book for long anymore, so other writers have started boosting their own books' stars by having them no-sell the Penance Stare. On the one hand, Punisher staring Ghost Rider down and Thanos getting off to it are really cool and fun, but on the other hand it makes one of the coolest and most unique things about Ghost Rider totally lame. It's pretty inconsistent, much like most things in comic books. Danny Ketch was the first to have it in the 90s. It's why the Penance Stare doesn't work on Thanos; He not only doesn't have any regret for his actions, he actively enjoys the suffering he's caused. At this point the Penance Stare hasn't actually worked for the majority of the time it's been around. Yeah Ghost rider is on my list of characters who are actually super OP but are regularly written poorly in terms of power showings. This isn't an inconsistency unique to this issue, though. However, he and baby Thanos embarked on a series of fun adventures before Frank decided to return … -Became King Thanos' herald to see more evil than he could punish in a thousand lifetimes -Helped King Thanos bring his past self to the future to achieve King Thano's desire to die -Was retrieved from the dead timeline by an alternate Odin and was reward with Vahlhalla Thanos has been responsible for the deaths of millions of life forms, and his life's work is to eradicate all life. Cookies help us deliver our Services. The God Quarry is the source of Future Thanos' and Old King Thanos' limitless power. Every morning, King Thanos starts his day with a Penance Stare, not to whither in the face of some deep, dark regret but to relive his deadly conquest of the universe... THANOS #15 Thanos Wins Part 3 I’m not sure how I feel about people tanking the Penance Stare. So he's an unkillable, unstoppable, giant dude who can hit and lift and hard as he needs to at any given moment with no upper limit clearly shown as of yet. Castle, instead of killing Baby Thanos, decided to adopt him. Mephisto ultimately tricked and enslaved Zarathos, rendering the demon amnesiac and trapping him in various mortal forms over many years. NO ONE CAN JUST REFLECT THE EMERALD SPLASH. Maybe it has something to do with the fact that this Ghost Rider is also the herald of the Galactus? Come on, show us Thanos overcoming all the pain and torture of the countless dead souls he's wrought. There have been different sorts of Spirits of Vengeance around the world based on each country's customs, belief and religion. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, More posts from the TwoBestFriendsPlay community, Continue browsing in r/TwoBestFriendsPlay. What's worse is that they choose to show the Stare just straight up not working against characters when that's explicitly not how it works. Maybe Thanos is a masochist and that's why he enjoys it. He was born with purple, hide-like skin and a massive body due to his Deviant Syndrome. I want a villain overcoming actual hardships and shit. This isn't an inconsistency unique to this issue, though. So, the Agents of SHIELD associated with Robbie Reyes, why didn't they some how call the Ghost Rider in to defeat Thanos. captainthor985 1 y 5 mo 5 d . That's how hard Thanos jobs, he jobs to himself. Yeah, this version of the Stare would be useful against I guess Iron Man and maybe Magneto on a good day. I feel like it was cool the first time, but the trope has kind of been worn out. Η ταυτότητα του κοσμικού Ghost Rider αποκαλύφθηκε στις σελίδες του "Thanos #15" του συγγραφέα Donny Cates και του σχεδιαστή Geoff Shaw. Reply 0 [-] Login to view this comment #17 to #14 - ratherfords . Ghost Rider comics have firmly established that the Penance Stare causes a crushing sense of sorrow equal to the pain of a person's victims, even if the "sinner" doesn't think what they did was wrong, or if they enjoyed doing it. You could probably make a book out of every time a villain has enjoyed the penance stare. In Earth-TRN666, in fact, Thanos is so in love with it that he does it every single day, after having killed the entire universe. It's the Total Perspective Vortex of morality. Aren’t they suppose to feel the pain they caused others? In Thanos #15, written by Donny Cates and illustrated by Geoff Shaw, the Mad Titan uses Cosmic Ghost Rider's skull to experience the Penance Stare. Young Thanos tosses the Rider's head to the ground, where his body retrieves it to place back on his shoulders. But, when he got there, he realized Baby Thanos is actually innocent, so The Ghost Rider power will not work on him. And his intelligence, it's so accurate, fast, and efficient is just about every way it gets the to point where it's damn near straight up precognition based on constant instantaneous calculations as shown in stories like MODOK's 11. There's also that time Venom stares into Ghost Rider's eyes and the sheer amount of sin Venom has committed just [takes Ghost Rider down.] Thanos uses the Ghost Rider's Penance Stare to relive every horrible act of violence and suffering that he's caused, which the Mad Titan enjoys immensely. Dormammu? Everything about the new Ghost rider is a hot take on the mythos itself, I'm loving every second of it. The Ghost Rider says it was not a penance stare right in the scan. The argument that Old King Thor can resist the penance state is baseless. its always the same shit whatever hero or villain they are writing has it not effect them because of the same edgy bullshit. Wtf is the point of the penance stare if people can just avoid it by not feeling regret? At this point the Penance Stare hasn't actually worked for the majority of the time it's been around. Blitzomaru ThumbMaster. It doesn't matter if Thanos enjoys suffering or Punisher "doesn't regret anything", it makes you face your sins the same as everyone else. When his Penance Stare does not work since the baby Thanos has not committed any sins yet, the Rider takes the Baby Thanos under his wing and plans to change his future this way. Their exact origins are a mystery, as some have claimed that they were the vestiges of God's power bonded to human hosts calling themselves Ghost Riders, while others have claimed them to be demons in the service of Mephisto. The only actual counters to him without contradicting his established power set is to either throw/redirect him far away, or somehow bypass his forcefield and knock his helmet off so that a telepath can get in there. Ghost Rider comics have firmly established that the Penance Stare causes a crushing sense of sorrow equal to the pain of a person's victims, even if the "sinner" doesn't think what they did was wrong, or if they enjoyed doing it. He's just glad he's finally found something that Jobs super hard more than him. Ghost Rider that was king thanos or god quarry but the ghost rider was cosmic ghost rider, this is johnny blaze ghost rider and if thanos resist the penance stare, then zarathos come in and because thanos has ALOT of Sin, Zarathos stares in his eyes, Thanos is done for even though I Like Thanos. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, Scholar of the First Spindash, Dedicated Silverwing Loremaster. Report Save. It should be the Total Perspective Vortex of morality. Considering Thanos' initial reaction to sacrificing Gamora in Vormir, there's a belief that Ghost Rider could force the Mad Titan to come face to face with all the sorrow he's caused everyone else. Various other authors have made the same mistake with how the Stare works, so for example there's an issue where Punisher magically resists it because he has no regrets. Forced empathy should logically bring every character ever to their knees. As we saw in the Thanos, he evolved to become the lackey for King Thanos once the Devourer of Worlds fell. In the comics, Ghost Rider did the penance stare, and Thanos laughed it off, but still could've defeated using his invincibility and chain which is indestructible or something? 1 she hulk2 jugernaut3 thor4 thanos5 old king thanos6 old king thor7 galactus8 old king thor necro sword9 gor10 knullI don't know if the list is corre In other media Television. And nothing will ever top the Flash in this regard, but that's a whole other can of worms. If he does take damage he has a ridiculous healing factor, he also doesn't need to eat, sleep, or breathe. Despite its immense power, the Penance Stare had limitations. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Marooned for countless years, Frank/Ghost Rider eventually went insane – but was later found by Galactus who further empowered the new Ghost Rider with the Power Cosmic. Yeah, I hate that they rewrite how the Penance Stare works whenever they want someone to overcome it. At the very least, if you want to show someone overcoming it without it coming across as "THIS CHARACTER IS SO COOL AND BADASS" then make it incapacitate them but have them overcome it over time or something, not fucking instantly. Press J to jump to the feed. At base(not overly nerfed or buffed by his boss) his strength is unlimited with no ties to any sort of extra requirement(not like Hulk who needs to get angrier, or Strong Guy who needs to absorb impacts), he is durable to the point of near-invulnerability with the ability to put up a forcefield around himself that is actually invulnerable(in his first fight with Thor it actually deflected a thrown Mjolnir). Small target is harder to hit, ya know, in case someone finally wises up and goes for the head. Thanos #15 opens with a gloriously dark splash page of Thanos looking into the penance stare of the cosmic Ghost Rider, admiring his deepest and darkest deeds. Frank saying it doesn't work because i regret nothing is the dumbest. >>120052647 It's the equivalent of pushing a wrestler by having him shrug off another star's finishing move and keep going. King Thanos tells his younger self that he performs that ritual every day. Continue this thread level 2. A place where fans of the content that Matt, Pat, and Woolie provide come to talk about their content and anything revolving around that. The stare makes you feel everything you've ever dished out all at once, it should work especially well on someone like Thanos. 247. Thanos was one of the last sons of A'Lars, progenitor of the second colony of Eternals on Titan, and Sui-San, the last survivor of the original settlement of Eternals in this moon. His penchant for human souls led him into conflicts with foes such as the Blood cult and the vile Mephisto, who saw Zarathos as a rival. ca. Right after MODOK is so fucking insanely busted, often has his intelligence overlooked even though he should be for all intents and purposes, the smartest thing on earth, more than even Richards, Stark, Doom, or even Pym. But this is poor writing at best! And Juggernaut, who is just... like this dude is so god damn stupid OP just about every loss he has makes no sense so they had to incorporate a vague plot device for him where his power level shrinks and grows at the whim of his master(Cyttorak, a ultra powerful god of chaos and destruction or whatever).
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